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Vanessa Beeley

28.03.2016 20:43

I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra on principle. I cant think of one other UK journalist who could have had greater influence than Fisktitious in the UK He could have turned the tide of propaganda if he only had the courage and integrity. Instead he toed the US NATO line and vilified the Syrian Government and ignored what he knew to be true on the ground in Syria. Suddenly he cant avoid the truth any more as it is becoming impossible not to see it even if you do suffer with financial & status driven myopia. Fisk bursts on the scene with his gung ho pomp and vigour, battering Cameron and almost sidling up to Hezbollah and the Ruskies. Well you can b*gger off Mr Fisk, your "epiphany" has come too little too late. Easter can do without a pseudo resurrection of your conscience, it already has its heroes in the Syrian Arab Army..you know the ones who have been beheaded by your Government's proxy terror hordes. The ones you kinda forgot to mention until now unless you were too busy accusing them of raping their own people. Rant over. Please dont post any Fisk trumpeting to my page. Thank you.

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Radmila Nastic 84% в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
That's true. Though I still reposted it. Just to show typical British stupidity in some ways
28.03.2016 20:52 1 187 50 4
Vanessa Beeley 57% в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
http://socratesandsyria.com/the-truth-according-to-robert-fisk/
28.03.2016 20:56 4 157 141 40
Vanessa Beeley 57% в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
Quote: The Truth According To Robert Fisk Pinned to the noticeboard above Robert Fisk’s computer 1. Know Thy Audience You do NOT write for the average well-informed Lebanese, Syrian or Iraqi, wherever they are, so don’t worry about the porkies you may tell or the consequences of them. Assume your readers are well-educated, left-leaning people (decent Aussies and Brits) who are cynical about their government and media. They look to you to be better informed about the ME. Respect them and they will defer to you. 2. Present Titbits Present to your reader scraps of verifiable information they’re not likely to have picked up from the ABC or the BBC. They will appear better informed on the ME when they are at a dinner party. 3. Avoid Revealing The Puzzle Too much reality, too many pieces of the puzzle juxtaposed in the one article, may lead the reader to glean the bigger picture themselves. Don’t let this happen. You must stay in control of the puzzle. You are the master of the narrative. 4. Present Convoluted As Sophisticated Maintaining your circuitous Fiskian style when writing on Syria enables you to appear sophisticated while avoiding the need to present logical and substantiated arguments. This is a ruse that will work as long as the reader knows much less than you do and remains satisfied with titbits. Cynicism coupled with inscrutability will always tantalize. 5. Stick To The Rhetoric It is not difficult to convince the reader who the enemy is; the mainstream media has already implanted the cliches. Damn the Syrian “Alawi Assad regime”. The rhetoric’s use-by date won’t be reached until Assad goes and the war is intractable. But remember to stick to it in your own inimitable fashion, so you stay above the mob; you’ll have no competitors. Don’t be predictable. Present a bit of the other side from time to time. You don’t want to be accused of lack of balance; that won’t help your credibility. 6. Present Claims As Fact You can pull this off because you are Fisk. Like a magician, you have gained the trust of your readership, so whenever you slip in accusations dressed up as fact, your ruse will go unnoticed. 7. Stimulate But Maintain The Comfort Zone Like friends, your readers are likely to return if you retain a convivial and welcoming demeanor. They are people who would love to have you over for a whisky and a conversation. In fact in their imaginations, they believe you are sitting in a leather armchair next to you, for that chat, with that whiskey. The ‘nudge, nudge, wink, wink’ approach to information works wonders. Your titbits act like racy gossip. You and your reader can go on sipping your whiskey or gin and tonic while the rest of the world makes the best of it. A familiar and convivial ‘boys own’ cynicism keeps them in their comfort zone, and on your readership list. 8. Don’t Mention The Christians This can be tricky, but it is possible most of the time. You don’t want the reader to worry about them. Otherwise they might empathize. Maintain a firm grip on the picture you want them to retain. It’s the Alawite minority vs the Sunni majority. It’s Simple Stupid. Truth shouldn’t get in the way when there is simplicity. No need to worry about the implications of making millions of people the enemy. After all, your readers wouldn’t recognize an Alawi if they met one, so they won’t miss them. That word ‘genocide’ can be avoided for now. By the time people start using it, the war will be so foggy no one will retain a memory of the lead-up. 9. In Fact Don’t Mention Anything Worrisome Neglect as much as you can the nastiness of the fatwas issued by extremist clerics in Qatar and Saudi Arabia against ‘heretical’ Syria. Neglect as much as you can the kidnappings and assassinations of imams, priests, reporters, doctors, professors, teachers and other civil servants. Neglect the connivance of the UN and NGOs in the war. Neglect as much as you can the fact that Syrians are pretty much regular people who value peace in their country. Neglect to mention that Syrians love life, love music; they laugh, they love. Neglect to mention the secular nature of Syria, so don’t write about women (not that you would). And there is no need to refer to religious freedom (who in the west cares these days, anyway?). Neglect to mention if you can that the enemy secular Syrians face is merciless. Don’t define the term ‘takfiri’; or if you do, once is enough, then forget it and let your readers forget it. Neglect to mention that relatively few Sunnis in Syria are Wahhabi or Salafi extremists, so the ‘Sunni majority’ in Syria probably don’t care too much about the sect of their president as long as he’s not a Wahhabi sponsored by Saudi Arabia or a member of the Muslim Brotherhood sponsored by Qatar. Neglect to mention that Saudi-style religious police are beginning to appear in some areas controlled by militias. Neglect to mention that the March 14 Alliance in Lebanon has been helping with the funding and arming of the militias in Syria. Neglect to mention that your favorite dinner host and Nihilist Walid Jumblatt is allied with this alliance (for the moment, anyway – you might need to check this with Walid again). Neglect to mention that the credentials of the leaders of this alliance, Saad Hariri and Samir Geagea, do not look good if scrutinized. But as long as readers know they are western backed, that should be irrelevant. (Remember to update this “neglect to mention list”. Ring Walid.) 10. Keep In Mind The Final Destination Make sure the snakes and ladders game you play with your readers takes them all to the one conclusion: the Syrian president is a brutal dictator, the Alawis are his henchmen, the Sunnis are OK, and you don’t need to worry about the Christians. In fact, in the end it will be Arabs fighting Arabs again, so it is none of the white man’s business. (Refugees may cause a bit of a problem, and there might be a bit of exported terror, but people shouldn’t see the connections if you don’t make them. And who will if Fisk doesn’t?) And don’t let the editor publish any images of regular Syrians. They’re not helpful. Unquote.
28.03.2016 20:57 5 157 141 40
Saurabh Kumar Shahi 57% в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
I used to idolise him when I was a student of journalism. Then I got a chance to see him work from a close angle. In the Iranian elections. I saw how he crumbled under the peer pressure. Slowly and slyly he also started towing the Western media created fake revolution line there. I couldn't believe it. I actually cried that night in my hotel 8 years ago. It was a lesson well learnt however. I still respect him. But he is no more a hero.
28.03.2016 20:57 7 49 5 1
Kevin Hester 12% в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
I have been a huge fan of Robert Fisk on The Independent for years, he went right off the tracks on Syria, hard to understand.
28.03.2016 21:06 4 3838 269 151
Radmila Nastic 84% в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
Excellent
28.03.2016 21:07 1 187 50 4
Kevin Hester 12% в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
Whats a few mil' between imperialists?
28.03.2016 21:09 1 3838 269 151
Ji Reh Mi % в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
I love this sentence! "Suddenly he cant avoid the truth any more as it is becoming impossible not to see it even if you do suffer with financial & status driven myopia"
28.03.2016 21:16 4 7 5
Vanessa Beeley 57% в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...

28.03.2016 21:19 1 157 141 40
Tototai Mativavarira % в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
British journalist cannot be trusted he is looking after his bank accounts
28.03.2016 21:23 14 10
Tototai Mativavarira % в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
Yes still few good journalist but most of them are the to support power
28.03.2016 21:30 1 14 10
Piers Johnstone % в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
You have Fisk completely wrong. You must remember that he's an actual journalist, not a political commentator. He will not take sides, as you would prefer he did. He's above that. That's what makes him so valuable. You want him to fight for your beliefs, but you've forgotten that that isn't his job. You want him you say that Assad is a good man, which is only true compared to his vile opposition. He denounces hypocrisy wherever it lies, not just where you want it, Vanessa Beeley.
28.03.2016 21:31 2 4
Piers Johnstone % в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
Fisk will always refuse to be dictated by money and the wishes of his bosses. He left the Times when Murdoch took it over and started editing his work. He took a huge pay cut in the process. He's a journalist. One of a very, very few. He's not the pro Assad commentator that you'd like. You assume he has an agenda, but he's not like the rest of the media herd. You've completely misunderstood him, I assure you.
28.03.2016 21:35 2 4
Diane Mantzaris 51% в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
OMG didn't mean to get you worked up about nothing lol. you can relax now.
28.03.2016 21:37 59 66 4
Vanessa Beeley 57% в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
He has taken a very clear side until now by braying the evil Assad baathist dictator torturing his own people line. He has failed to report the bleeding obvious. How the heck does that make him a good journalist?
28.03.2016 21:40 5 157 141 40
Piers Johnstone % в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
For a man that took a huge pay cut on moral ground (left the Times when Murdoch started editing his reports) and is yet to be swayed, by the now totally bias owners of the independent, and is one of a very few real journalists left in this world, who refuses to take sides, as perhaps many here would prefer, he's getting a lot of stick.
28.03.2016 21:40 1 2 4
Vanessa Beeley 57% в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
You havent got me worked up about anything Diane ????.
28.03.2016 21:41 1 157 141 40
Janice Kortkamp 73% в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
he was hit and miss - mostly miss over the past several years. I agree with you - he could have had a positive impact and got close a few times - but overall fell in with the parade
28.03.2016 21:42 5 73 19 11
Vanessa Beeley 57% в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
...and who says i want a pro Assad line??? I defend Syrian sovereignty and the self determination of the Syrian people.
28.03.2016 21:43 4 157 141 40
Tototai Mativavarira % в теме Vanessa Beeley - I am not sharing Robert Fisk's article on Palmyra...
I think he got bank transfer from Saudis may be Or owners of independent paper try to follow British foreign office torn
28.03.2016 21:43 1 14 10
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